Golf Course Review & Scouting Report

Talking Stick Golf Club (Piipaash/South Course)

75

Scottsdale, Arizona

Established
1998
Architect
Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw
Access
Public
Par
Par 71
Length
5,428 – 6,833 yds
Green Fees
$$
The verdict

Coore & Crenshaw’s Parkland Gem

Talking Stick’s Piipaash Course is a polished, inviting Coore & Crenshaw design celebrating subtle parkland challenge on tribal land. Its mature trees, strategic green sites, and impressive back-nine muscle earn it a rightful place atop Arizona’s daily-fee scene, all with effortless resort convenience.

Course DNA
Difficulty
67
Scenery
74
Conditioning
86
Shot Variety
77
Walkability
68
Green Complexity
71
Wow Factor
73
Design Quality
79
Don't miss

Check out the story of the course's rebranding on the clubhouse display wall, which honors the Piipaash heritage and tribal community’s stewardship.

At a glance

Quick facts

Owned/Operated By
Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community
Course Rating/Slope
72.0 / 126 (Black tees)
Green Type
Bermuda with overseed in season
Number of Par 3s
Five (unusual for par 71)
Water Hazards
Strategic presence on multiple holes
Practice Facilities
Full range, putting green, golf academy
Back Nine Strength
Long par 4s/5s provide a stern finish
Rebranding
Formerly 'South' course, now 'Piipaash'
The design

The architecture

Piipaash (South) is Coore & Crenshaw’s desert parkland twist—wide, tree-buffered fairways and strategically bunkered, subtly raised greens demand both accuracy and imagination. Absent the raw dunes and vast exposure of its O’odham (North) sibling, the South course focuses on managing shade, slight elevation changes, and water to weave a strategic test that rewards sound decision-making throughout. The routing keeps players guessing, with a blend of straightforward and muscle holes capped by an exciting risk-reward closer. Every green and landing area is crafted to both welcome and defend, offering a different kind of desert challenge rooted in classic design discipline.

Coore & Crenshaw’s restraint and eye for classic design flourish here, blending modern resort comfort with Arizona heritage.

Defining features
  • Wide, shapely parkland fairways with mature tree corridors
  • Five par 3s, each with distinct club and wind challenges
  • Strategic water hazards in play on multiple approach shots
  • Raised, subtly contoured greens with sharp runoffs and bunkering
  • Back nine stretch with formidable par 4s and 5s
  • Flexible tee choices for all skill levels
Hole by hole

Signature holes

Hole 5

The Long Test

PAR
4
YARDAGE
461

A stern par 4 demanding a confident drive and a long iron to a well-defended green, this hole is regarded as the front nine’s most challenging. Length and precise control are mandatory to avoid deep bunkers and leave a manageable par chance.

Play it smart

Favor the right half of the fairway to open the green; don’t bite off more than you can chew on your approach.

Where it bites

A miss left courts disaster in the bunkers; a missed green almost guarantees a tough up-and-down.

Course management

Shots to think about

Approaching the long par-4 5th
Play for position off the tee and land your approach on the safer side, even if it means a long putt or chip.
Deciding to go for the 9th in two
Only attack the green if your drive was perfect—otherwise, lay up and wedge in to pin-seeking range.
Tee shot at the 14th (541-yard par 4)
Commit to your line and trust a strong, aggressive strike, knowing par is a real achievement.
Third shot into the 16th green
Aim for the heart of the green—missing short or right can be fatal here.
Final tee shot on 18
Weigh risk versus reward: a bold drive could set up eagle, but a layup guarantees no disaster.
Windy day on the 8th
Club up and flight it low; swirling conditions make this short par 3 deceptively tough.
On the day

What to expect

Conditions

Top-tier grooming, excellent greens, and consistent, resort-level maintenance year-round.

Pace

Usually steady; plan for 4-4.5 hour rounds during peak times.

Vibe

Friendly, high-service resort with a polished golf culture and welcoming staff.

Dress code

Standard resort golf attire—collared shirts and proper shoes required.

Before you tee off

Your game plan

01

Check Seasonal Overseed Schedules

Arizona resort courses overseed and close for aerification—confirm opening dates before planning your round.

02

Hydrate and Use Shade

Even with mature trees, the desert heat persists; bring water and rest in shaded spots where possible.

03

Book Early for Tee Time Deals

Peak season fills fast and value times are snapped up; book online or call the pro shop directly.

04

Try the Practice Academy

Arrive early to take advantage of the excellent range, putting green, and short-game area.

The lore

How it came to be

  1. 1998

    Opened as Talking Stick South; first Coore & Crenshaw Arizona project

  2. 2022

    Rebranded as 'Piipaash' course to celebrate tribal heritage

  3. 2024

    Co-hosted GCSAA Golf Championships and debut of clubhouse/golf shop expansion

Stories & legends

What makes it special

culture

A Tribal Vision Realized

The course stands as both a first-class resort golf experience and a symbol of the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community’s vision for sustainable economic growth. Every round here nods to the land’s roots and celebrates its evolving legacy.

design

Brother Courses, Contrasting Souls

While its O’odham sibling stuns with open, links-style drama, Piipaash rewards precision and patience, winding through mature parkland corridors with deft strategic nuance. Here, every fairway offers options but demands discipline.

competition

Tournament Proven, Player Friendly

Though it hasn’t hosted the world’s biggest events, the South course shines as a tournament venue, comfortably welcoming everything from 300-player charity shoots to national golf championships. The layout’s flexibility and conditioning make it a favorite for event planners and players alike.

challenge

The Back-Nine Gauntlet

Players approach 14, 15, and 16 knowing the round’s outcome likely hangs in the balance. Taking on the muscle of these demanding holes is a Scottsdale rite of passage, where pars are golden and mistakes can quickly multiply.

For the group chat

Fun facts

1

Was Coore & Crenshaw’s first Arizona desert design project.

2

Property is fully owned and operated by the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community.

3

South course features an unusually high five par 3s for a par-71 layout.

4

Renamed 'Piipaash' to reflect the area’s history and tribal stewardship.

5

Clubhouse expansion in 2024 added major new amenities without altering the golf course’s original design.

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